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And I was already in my studies by doing my bachelor degree, very interested in industry 4.0. I was so curious what is there behind, what is kind of technology, 3D printing and so on. And it's kind of technical stuff, but I was always learning or starting business, at least in Austria and in Germany. And I was very curious how we can implement, how we put this great technical stuff in our normal life. And so, it started more or less in 2000, I would say, 15, where I was interested in new technologies. And then, I was in my bachelor work and so on, just developing it. And now, working as a consultant. So, helping people to get in touch with it and maybe make the work smart. Yeah. And not harder.
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I think that's an amazing goal and a really cool vision. Maybe on the industry 4.0, what does it actually mean? Because I can imagine for our audience as well, it's not very easy to understand industry 4.0. And what is actually the difference with industry 3.0? Yeah, it's like very, very different people, different perspectives, but it's more or less that every couple of years, every century, we had many different developments starting, let's say, from the perspective of energy, for example, we started somewhere with coil. And now, we have renewable energy and so is the technology. So, it's also we're working by hand and producing something. Then, there came the mass production. Then, it's coming the automated factories and so on. And this is what industry 4.
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0 more or less meant, that we have renewable energy. We have outs where people are not doing that much with work. So, it's like kind of future. Some people are talking even about industry 4.0. Yeah. I think we're not there yet. But it's like philosophical and scientific question. Yeah. So, but for me, what I like about this kind of interest is just the big context of things. What I think where it's like kind of the future vision of how the maybe the companies, the factories can look like. But my mission, or at least how I see my mission, is to help companies just to come closer to this vision, to optimize the processes. We are so far away from them, from this automated work. Yeah.
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So, this is just like short thing, but I am pretty sure it's not the main part of the question today, right? And mostly, you are working B2B, or also B2C, that you would do some mentorings? To be honest, yeah, it's like a nice perspective. I'm working B2B, first of all. So, it's more or less companies actually now working for a big one, but the main focus on small and medium enterprise, because I think they have a bit challenging to entering technology, or sometimes don't have money. And I think it's nice to help them, maybe if they want to get the help. And about mentoring, I don't know if someone would ask me, I would definitely say yes, if they see some kind of a role model in my personality on myself.
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Yeah. Have you thought about doing kind of mentoring already? No? Sorry? No, Marie, have you thought also of being a mentor? Or maybe you are a mentor right now? Yes, I do mentoring sessions. So, I also do B2B, but also B2C, because there are some people, so maybe also you who are watching. There is Olga Brumik, who if you see her as a role model for the digital transformation, to work smarter in your professional career, or maybe in the personal career, then you can reach out to her. And I'm usually doing branding. So, usually customers, they are reaching out to me when they want to actually identify their own brand, and then have their own business, small LTD, or they want to even like scale it, scale it up with the product.
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So, we are usually working with my mentees on step by step guide on how to reach the confidence in their own product. So, yeah, I think it's very important. I also have, I have till now just mentors, but was never like I was always in the role of mentee. The next step is to also start giving something back. I think that people can learn from you. And I think two very strong women in this room here, where people can definitely learn from. So, definitely audience, let's start to get in touch. I had a question regarding, let's say, the topic, right? Like making hard, smart work. Where do you see in digital transformation, initiatives, especially in like the smaller SMEs that you might have worked with, where people are spending really too much time on just protecting the hard work that they've been doing, and why this might struggle with actually going towards smart work?
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It's, I think there are like different constraints or challenges, which are not just small SMEs or any company I think has an issue with this one. I think it's on one side, the first one is people. It's like really what I see always or every time that it's more or less people who don't want to have a change. It's just like, like we, you know, you have your favorite handy, you have your favorite pillow, you don't want to have a change. It's like running, like it's running, and it's nice. Yeah. So, and that's, first of all, to change this mind of people to maybe to bring the advantages, to give them this maybe digital mindset, kind of. Yeah. And this is first constraint.
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I think the people is the most, so it's like, first of all, to get this mind, second, to motivate them to have something new, to show them the advantages of it, to train them, and stuff like this. Then another one is definitely the budget, because the changes cost something, it's not for free. But there are actually open source softwares, which are like, are there to be downloaded and implemented. But then we are coming again, back to people, which sometimes people don't have the skills. So it's like either you have a great IT department who is like motivated and wants to improve it. And this is also brings another constraint, when companies will be thought that the solution is, or the problem is the IT department.
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So it's like, sometimes the business and IT doesn't work really close together. And it should come the initiatives from both sides, then it will be maybe a better kind of future. So for me, it's like two main things. It's people with mindset, budget, and definitely will find some kind of other stuff. Yeah. And the skills maybe which are missing. Yeah, I mean, that can always happen. And like, what's your unique key to help unlock the mindset of people? Like, do you have like any specific trick tip that you put up there? Yeah, yes. I think it's curiosity. So if you bring so for me, it's okay, when we talk about huge project, it's about the project management, they're like, should be in my opinion, a lot of projects are missing the change management.
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So the change management, it's exactly takes care on how to bring the people together how to, to, to see that they want to have this software, they use it, you know, sometimes you implement something and people are working the old way. So it doesn't bring anything. So that's kind of thing. And I think, for example, with AI tools, it's really about curiosity, you are showing, oh, look, I was just traveling. And I just I didn't know what is it I was taking the picture uploading it to a tool in my case, and was asking what is it and where I am. And then it's just also can answer you. So it's an audio thing and answering you are you are probably in this city. In my case, it was I was in Georgia.
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So you are here and it's kind of an old way of producing vine. So and it's telling you the history and then telling the story and people are getting curious, right. So and this is how I believe we can unlock a bit just to bring advantages to show them small wins. And then maybe they're on your side. And what are your favorite AI tools that you like to use? A lot. But maybe you share maybe I already see I was telling you right now and before we started with the recording that it's first time for me to use this Riverside. But I was already I was a bit like nervous because of it's like first time of recording of this video.
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And I was already five minutes in advance and was checking the tool and I saw already it's like taking the notes. It's also AI powered thing. Really great new experience. My favorite one is of course, I know everyone is talking about this. It's like already written in all the papers and LinkedIn and already also formulation or cheat sheets, how to use the prompting with how to formulate their questions on. But I think it's quite a powerful one. Then I'm what else I'm using. I'm using, for example, for translation and for text approval. I like Depot. I don't know if you know. Yeah, my parents, they use it. Yeah, it's for me. Yeah, it's for translation is really great one. And also it's there is a second function Depot, right?
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So you just put your text and it's improving the text or giving suggestion on some kinds of new words and stuff like this. And this is very practical because I'm thinking sometimes in three languages or in four and I'm writing it's one English, one German word can be in my stuff. And then I'm just putting it and it's like, okay, now it looks like. In that sense, it's more effective than Google Translate. Definitely. So from my experience, definitely. It's much better. It's look, it's really closer to normal. So it doesn't look like it's translated sometimes. No, it's for free. It's for free. Yeah. The paid version is just for companies. So they already thought it's what I like about them. They thought already about data protection. Yeah.
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And they have a paid version for because the tool is any AI tool. It's trained based on data. Right. And so and it's training by our requests. It's also training and improving or whatever. And Depot was a paid version, you can implement just for your company. And so it will be trained on based on your data. So yeah, it's really nice. Yeah, it's also fine. So definitely Depot. Then Canva, you know, also, it's like a favorite, but it's also the risk in Canva what I like about pictures. So when I upload the picture, and I want to remove some stuff, it's also an AI based thing. It's quite nice. Then it's like about daily life. But then I use some for project management, some tools, I'm testing them.
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What is the best one is about, for example, Monday, you know, definitely. Yeah. And it's our favorite for project management. Monday. It's also have experience to have experience with it, right. But it's, it's quite expensive. So it's at the beginning, like if you are like a small medium company, I would really like think about it. Like if this tool is really something that you need, because you can really, like have lots of different features and functions, and it's tool that is customizing itself for your needs. But you can really end up with the circulation of quite a big budget after. You can check out, I didn't do a comparison of these two tools, but you can check also, it's called Zoho, Z-O-H-O. I don't know how to pronounce it.
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And they have also Zoho projects. So it's up to three users. It's for free. So you can maybe definitely we will check it out. If it helps. I see Marie writing it down already, like Cedric has to try this. Then of course, like, you know, write Sonics or copy AI. So it's like for content creation, yeah. Helps also giving some ideas and what I like because I have different social media things. It's about, it's called Buffer. Yeah. It's like content management tool. Just put in all my accounts there and yeah. I heard about it, but for the content management so far, I didn't find better than a Notion. The Notion I like the most so far, but it's more like for the management among our team, like for example, our social media manager, she prepares and I just approve, I give comments, et cetera.
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But actually Buffer is like also offering that you can like post it automatically or whatever. Yeah, that's what I like. I'm scheduling the stuff because I'm very like most probably the same with you. You're just busy with your stuff. And sometimes I have also my schedule for my social posts. And I'm just trying to schedule one day when I'm preparing everything, writing, generating pictures, or just putting my photo, whatever. I see you are smiling. You have probably the same thing. Yes. So structured. Yeah. And then project management. And I'm scheduling it. So I'm scheduling with Buffer and also there is Buffer suggesting user as opposed to ideas. So based on your content, it's also nice. Yeah. So that's maybe my favorite ones, I would say.
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It's also really hard nowadays to say like what AI tools do you like to use? Because nowadays, if the tool doesn't leverage the AI, it's like you can be out. Yeah, you can be to some extent sure that this software will finish soon. I don't know what I would do. When I was writing my master's thesis, it's a pity that it didn't exist. I was really like people who are writing now some bachelor's thesis, master's thesis, sometimes it's just, you know, to sum up the articles, to write or make a research, whatever. It's so helpful. Or to find the mistakes, you know, that's also nice. Improve, and then it's improved. Suddenly, it's really great. But also it then tells us that what they taught us at the school is so redundant sometimes that there are like other skills that we need nowadays, then how to properly structure.
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Definitely, definitely. And, you know, for example, I was also, I think it's still in the kind of in the beginning. So as the tools say, AI tools are not thinking on its own, more or less. Yeah, it's like algorithm behind and trained on data and so on. So I would say shit in, shit out. Sorry for this word, in case it's not allowed here. But it's like kind of based on the data. And I think as the future is really, I don't believe it will come now in 10 or 10 years or something like this. Definitely not. But when it would be great if AI assistant or AI virtual person would read a book, you know, and would discuss it with you.
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And, for example, but this is like kind of already mental things, which the AI tools cannot do till now. Because that, yeah, but that's, I believe, maybe in 30 years. That would be an interesting future, though. Like, then you don't need to read the full book anymore. You can just indeed have it consumed by an AI tool. And then you can have like an open conversation. So tell me more about it. Okay, what happens there? It will also help, I think, a lot of students with their homework, probably. You know, but what I think it's like, it's one on one side, we have an advantage of this kind of tools. On the other side, we're getting lazy. Yeah, like stopping thinking, just putting stuff into, I don't know, an AI tool and hoping it will produce you something great.
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Or just we are losing kind of skillsetting. It's like, can be Oh, we might lose. Maybe we're not losing them right now. But no, definitely. And I think here, that's also one of our missions of Innovatology and here for the audience that is tuning in. Like what we're really about is making sure that technology that we start using it, but we don't get abused by it. Because with all these new AI tools coming in, it's very easy that we can get overwhelmed. So it's very important that we still have a critical mind of understanding where this AI tool can add the value in your life. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, they're like 1000s of things what I see from my experience, where like, maybe all the generation, I don't want to talk about age now, but not everyone is using these tools.
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So for some of them, it's like completely, you know, blue ocean and nothing exists in this area. So they're not checking it out. So they're like, for many people that like might be a lot of surprises there out out there. And I was trying to motivate my mom to use. How did I go? She said, I couldn't register myself. I don't want really. Yeah, but okay. They're like, yeah, we have to try it out. Maybe. Maybe I should start with my mom before I start with other companies, right? I mean, it's a good beta testing scenario. That's for sure. Yeah. And do you do you also use any, maybe other tools, which I don't know in your in your work? Hugo, Marie, I have just one tool in mind, but that has blown my life to the next level.
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Yeah, but it's, it's the cloud.ai. Like it's, I mean, it's not an online tool. It's also it's, it's a, it's a device as well. So it's like a voice recorder, but then what it does, it basically captures a meeting recording, and then it's transcripts. So you like the meeting notes, the action plans, what was the key, the key topics that were discussed. So like, for me, that's really amazing because now I can actually listen to what Marie says and actually remember what I need to do for the next week. So this is really changing my life both professionally and personally. Great. Tell me about this usage. I need to keep it secret. There was some GDPR that I had to go through on this. Yes. I didn't give you the consent.
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You did. You wrote your name on a paper. You just didn't read the fine lines, you know. It's always, everything is about data protection, right? Yes. And it's really important. It was also like my mom asked me recently that how does it work from the GDPR perspective that now, like there are lots of influencers, everybody's using social media. And if you are recording yourself, for example, on the beach, what do you actually do with the people who are, for example, behind you? Like, I mean, from the GDPR perspective, you should just like avoid other people's faces if they didn't give you the consent. But nowadays, the social media are like super spread around that. I mean, if I am in the video captured by other person, I'm not like running after that person to like delete me from that video.
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Right. Like pros and cons, like for the personal usage, it's fine. But then for commercial, you should have the consent. So it's also a bit interesting to dive deeper into the GDPR also when it comes to the AI and these tools. But from my perspective, I don't have hardware, like Cedric just mentioned, but for me, it's also like, for example, mid-journey for the design and for the graphics because I like to do the imaginations and these things. So I think that we also didn't mention this one because, of course, Canva and GPP, I'm also using, but I really like also the, for example, Dali and mid-journey. Then we also use the Monday.com. We tried the vid.io, which is for the video creation, but the videos are not yet there when it comes to the artificial intelligence.
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So it's still, there is a gap because like the eyes of the people are going really not the right direction. So yeah, I would say these things just come up into my mind right now. That's great. There are really a lot of tools and now I'm also curious in which direction or how, you know, the co-pilot from Microsoft, it's like kind of integrate or at least what they're trying to do and I'm not that happy until now with it, but it's also kind of integrated tools into Microsoft package, what they're doing. And it's also the purpose is, for example, to take the meetings notes and to write the summaries, to use the AI things in Excel, for example, to write the formulas and so on.
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What I think is funniest with co-pilot, it's like chatGPT in disguise. Yeah, but it's regarding the data protection. They're like, of course, you know, when it's integrated directly in the same package, it's like for many companies before they take chatGPT, they're taking the co-pilot. Yeah, so what I experienced till now, but they're not that happy. I hope they will develop themselves a bit faster. How does the digital transformation of the companies work? So, or like, how does the like initial, for example, stages like, so that the company like, then like contact you, ask you for the consultations and then like, what is, how does usually the first consultation looks like with them or what are the methods that you are using?
00:27:57
There are different frameworks, of course, different approaches depends on the companies and also, for example, when regarding the projects, it depends on the company and the perfect project is when you start as a consultant from the beginning. So, you're already coming into definition of the project, the definition of goals and so on and can also set up. What is not that great when you are picked up at some phase of the project. So, the goals already defined, the software is already chosen and you are just trying to do something and sometimes not really happy. How does it look generally from the beginning? It's, we're starting the first question, which I ask, it's about where do you want to go? What is your vision more or less?
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It's like, but it's normal I think in our personal life, in projects, nothing different. It's to define what do you want? Yeah, where do you see yourself and what is your future? How do you want that your company looks like? I don't know, in five years, in seven years and so on. Then the next stage, which is a lot of, which is also it's kind of mistakes of, or I would say not there is a proper way of doing stuff, in my opinion, is to is the actual analysis of the actual situation. So, to analyze where you stay, what is your actual position and what are, what I want to make the internal analysis, what are your strengths? So, typical, for example, SWOT analysis. So, you analyze your strengths, weaknesses.
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So, internally and check, for example, in case of digital transformation, your digital maturity levels are also a lot of models and frameworks, how to do it and online tools also. On the other hand, to check what is outside, what are the threats and opportunities? Yeah. So, you check your customers, you check your competitors, you check maybe the political situation. So, it depends where you are. For example, you can take the pastel analysis, yeah, like political, social, economical and so on factors. Yeah. So, and I believe this is the most important stuff to analyze where you want to go and to analyze where you are right now, just to know the whole things. And then you start with the strategy development based on these factors.
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And once you define this one, then you can start already with the small projects. And I always say companies, they want to do everything at once. My advice, start small, think big. That's a good one. Yeah, it's a pilot once. I love really pilot projects. So, check different strategies, maybe different things, check what works, what doesn't work. And then you can choose based on this way. You have to choose also in the beginning of any project, your team, yeah, to check with whom you are working, then define how you are working, then it's like coming to the project management, maybe also, if you are doing classical project management, waterfall or agile, when you don't know your requirements and it's complex environment and project and so on.
00:31:31
And then it's like going already to the stages, the process analysis, I don't know, the software, to choose the software afterwards when you know your requirements. Yeah, and then implementation phase and testing and hyper care and so on. And then you get into the business as usual. Yeah. I was curious to hear your thoughts, like strategy-wise. What are the components that define a good strategy to go from an ASIS to B-State? For me, I think it's like what I mentioned exactly that it's to define these two points. So the strategy is the way between where you are and where you want to go. And so once you define and analyze your current status and know your goal, you can the best define the strategy.
00:32:33
So the way how do you want, do you want to do it internally maybe with your resources? And as a strategy, it's just we are talking always, companies talking about strategy itself, about how to develop the business and what they always sometimes always see is how to develop. They forget sometimes about digital strategy, which is a part of the main strategy, right? And yeah, and I think this is two main components actually to know where you want to go and where you stay and then it's like the way of analysis to check the competitors to check which resources you have and so on. I see in your LinkedIn that you have really, really great like you did a lot of education in AI, business, data science, but also quite a really interesting experience.
00:33:37
What do you consider as your biggest achievement when it comes to like the digital transformation with the businesses, etc? I think the biggest achievement, of course, this I would say two of them. First is exactly the theoretical knowledge which I'm doing the latest one was my master in business consulting and digital management, digital transformation. That was my personal biggest achievement because I was studying first time in German and it's like kind of challenging and really great. And the second one is exactly their working experience. So you can attend a lot of courses, you can get a lot of theoretical experience, but if you never worked with people, if you don't know how business runs, if you never suffered and I was suffering working for example in logistic company or in supply chain department, you know, I know personally the pain points.
00:34:48
I was experiencing them and now when I'm bit on another side, when I'm helping to implement something, I already see what might be the pain and where can I help. Like it's like a doctor, you know, I have kind of medicine sometimes, sometimes not. And it happened in the past that like the businesses would contact you and you would say like, sorry, like this is out of my scope. Like I don't have the medicine for your problem. Yes. Yes, it's happening. And I think it's also some, you know, I'm self-employed. So it's of course finding a project and sometimes the self-employed consultants are taking everything what comes and I think it's in this kind of situation.
00:35:44
It's completely fine to say, okay, maybe I'm not the right one, but I know someone who is the right one, definitely because once the request was about sustainability goals from European Union. So if I can help to implement them in the supply chain, yeah, so the policy, how they can implement this European Union policy into their businesses and how they can work with documents, what they can take care. Of course, I'm doing with supply chain also stuff, but my main focus is still digitalization. This means tools and software. I can do it, but I have to educate myself. I can have to spend time and it's not my purpose. And it's also self-reflection. Yes, definitely. And once it was just the project where I said also no, because it was, I had the feeling it's too big for me.
00:36:48
Yeah, and I was not sure that I can manage it and deliver the proper results. Yeah, but it's also fine. It's a very high level of self-awareness. Losing money? No, no, to be able to decide that for yourself, like what you can handle, what you cannot. It's very good, I think. Yeah, definitely. But when I'm not sure that I can help, I don't take it. Yeah, so it's better like this than have a bad reputation and said, okay, yeah, she screwed. How is it for you, Marie? For me, in terms of the self-reflection. Well, I usually like when it comes to the clients, indeed, like they are like terms that I usually like, I speak with the client, what do they need?
00:37:42
And then if they don't meet the terms that, for example, first of all, it's about the content. So if the project that they are proposing, if it's not interesting, if it's not in digital, if it's for example, too much business or it depends, first of all, on the content. If there are no, like if there's no interest from my side and it's no go and then it's also about being on site or not because a lot of times it seems to me that the clients, the big organizations, they really mislead the employees to the self-employed. So if I'm self-employed, I have a really a lot of disadvantage towards the employee. I don't have the benefits. I need to educate myself.
00:38:31
I also need to have at least one more client because it's actually illegal to have only one client as a self-employed because then the clients are actually escaping the tax system, which I think that not a lot of organizations also understand this kind of term. So I'm then asking if it's on site or remote and many times it happens to me that they write me. It's actually also happened to me today that they wrote me that they expect to be five days on site and I told them like apology, but I am a freelancer. I can do one two days on site. But what you are what you actually want is not a freelance is employee and I'm not going to be on site five days per week because even employee doesn't go nowadays five days per week.
00:39:22
I mean, this is crazy and then brutal. Yeah. Yeah, of course, of course, but this is exactly what you know, what is the difference when we are talking about also smart work. It's like I don't understand this requirements to be five days a week from 9 to 5 or whatever. If for example, if I'm very motivated, I can wake up at 6 and already starting working. I don't need to be in the office. I don't need to be at 9 maybe at 9. I want to sleep. I don't know but the things it's like I think that's not the future for companies as well. Yeah, and especially not for freelancers because it's also like if you want somebody on site if you want somebody from 9 to 5 and dedicated then go for employees.
00:40:13
But if you want to have a freelance freelance people day indeed have more clients. They are more free. They need to pay their own trainings and they bring the external vibe into the organization. But it's sometimes I'm just really surprised how the organization are perceiving the freelancing that yeah five days on site. It's just I'm always like wow, it's crazy. Okay. I mean the conclusion that I'm taking from the podcast so far is that working smart means self-employed or freelancer because then you can define your own agenda and we can really work smart. And I would advise exactly to somehow to try to reduce your working time and optimize your working day, you know, for example, there is a book 4 hours working week and and they're like also different tactic in case you haven't read it till now.
00:41:14
It's quite interesting and one of them it's like for example that you are checking your emails twice a day at some time not every five minutes like I'm doing or was doing or you know, or trying for example also to get maybe a virtual assistance VA and it's also what I have right now and she's making my life really better much better much easier much I'm happy. So in case you can do it and to just win more time for creativity and not doing some stuff which you are like not enjoying to have this also would be like a task to maybe to put the times when you're checking your emails and maybe to get for work which you don't want to want to have a VA. Yeah. Nice.
00:42:05
Yes, also like regarding working smart is there like do you go for example to different like work lunches or how does your usually day looks like when it comes to work smart? To work smart. I try to schedule my day or try to schedule the whole week actually the just to put what I what are the plans I'm trying to highlight two main topics which I'm doing this week for example and doing this everything on Saturday on Sunday so that on Monday I already prepared for the week or maybe you can do it maybe on Friday whatever and that's the first one and also another book which I would advise it's like called seven habits of highly effective people. There's a good book. Yeah, it's really good.
00:42:58
And it's also helping to structure to write your goals weekly schedule and so on then another thing which so I'm preparing so we can advance. This is the first one the second one is the work I'm trying to schedule the work for the projects for the clients and also to schedule the work for my business for developing for social media for podcast and so on so to prepare this one, but it's also belongs to the scheduling more or less and then I try to also get another consultants who are doing my work. So for example text advice. I don't want to have any things with Texas. It's not interesting topic for me and I don't want to take this responsibility. I am for legal things for checking the contracts or whatever.
00:43:57
So I think it's completely fine. If you if you have the possibility just also to seek for help to take to give something what way you would spend maybe hours to another people and just to outsource somehow and then try to to maybe also to put the schedule for your social media, you know time check LinkedIn just once a day or emails twice day and some kind because I sometimes we're just crawling, you know, and it just like spending time for actually nothing and what else I'm doing sports and I'm enjoying it and love it and yeah, that's motivates me. And get a virtual assistant or AI assistant. But this one is super important. Like we get our virtual assistant recently and it's really needed.
00:45:02
I mean, I don't know how I could live my life without virtual assistant. Yeah, I think it's exactly what you you're also self-employed or you have your own companies. I am the same way and we are having so many different roles which and we have to take care about so many things out of what probably the whole company is doing with different departments marketing accounting. I don't know operations. This is what we are doing here IT set up and IT for yourself for your team, right? And it's like kind of things you have to take care about so many things. So it's outsource what you can outsource. That's very advanced advice from my side. Yeah, I have a last question for myself and it's a what's next for Olga because you just finished your master your master degree in AI.
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So what's next? So master I finished already one year ago, but it's still the big achievement. Yeah, and with AI continuous checking another courses. So next stage is exactly to now to create so to move from self-employment to a company so to have my own company. I'm not sure if I want to have employees but at least kind of partnerships. This is the next one and I will move in the direction of AI and I would like to bring a more not just AI but more affordable open source tools AI tools and softwares to their to the companies and to make really what I like is to make the life of people better easier and it's so easy actually by using the tools and using the software and I don't want to change the companies just the companies because the company is employees.
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Yeah, it consists of employees and I want to make the people of this people of this employees better. That's the main thing. So the mission is here and I'm ready for it. Did you actually check our one of the podcasts with a Mary Frane? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me a bit what you the direction you want to go like but she's more in like make yourself the AI virtual assistants. Like I will make you the army of virtual assistants. Yeah. Yeah, it's I was really in it's an interesting podcast. So maybe people who are not who is not who are not watching it with the device. It's really a nice nice and very positive one. Yeah, what I like we have today happy to hear and but she's in America.
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So we have different markets and she's focusing on LinkedIn. So also not just AI but also LinkedIn strategy. I am one for operations the order to cash process who want to have it more specific. Yeah. What are your plans for the future when I am allowed also maybe to ask the question from my side? There is a lot currently. So with Innovatology we are now starting with having our first digital products. So we will be piloting the online courses as of September. So the first online course will be on the branding because I have quite a lot of mentees and it's for me not very sustainable to have like a one-on-one calls and I want to make it something more exclusive.
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So I'm doing currently the online course on it and it will be part of the products of Innovatology and we are currently also revamping the whole brand of Innovatology on the YouTube because we went quite crazy with number of the videos and number of podcasts. So we want to more stabilize it and make it slightly different. So we are currently working on the revamping the brand in this direction and then make it more make it more like navigation towards the market and to establish ourselves among the top tier and we will have actually the stand. It will be our premier. We will have a stand at the Web Summit in Lisbon where we will be as Innovatology. So either if somebody who is currently watching will be at the Web Summit this year in November.
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We will have there the stand as Innovatology so you can come to say as hi and we will do also some podcast on the spot there. Wow, great. I will check it out. Indeed, you can definitely check us out there at the Web Summit to see how Marie is working hard and how Cedric is hardly working. But anyway, what I see also from you, it's like also the only constant is the change, right? So we are always changing, trying to improve the things. I think that's the case. It's the innovatology. We are innovating. That's great. Really nice. So I will check it out. Maybe we will see each other. Definitely, because I think that it's definitely really related to your field. There will be a lot about AI.
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They have also AI Summit as a part of the Web Summit. So it might be something really interesting for you. Great. Thank you so much, Olga, for coming to our innovatology podcast about working smart, smart working. And I think that we really covered a lot of different topics from how to help companies to be more efficient in their operations, but we also covered a lot regarding the software for the daily life of the people who were watching us on LinkedIn. We will also have the premiere of this podcast on YouTube and Spotify. So definitely check it out. Subscribe. Just write innovatology anywhere on any platform where you are. And we will be looking forward to have you again in the future. So thank you so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Bye.
