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And then I feel like super dead. Uh, and then I cannot sleep in the evening. So for me, power naps never work because I cannot stick to the like 15, 10, 20 minutes because I just cannot, cannot fall asleep for 15, 20 minutes. And then when I finally do, it's like one hour of sleep of a deep sleep, but, uh, then it's a really hard for me. I was already going to say that when, when you do it for one hour, because it's the sleep, it always goes through different stages. So it means that when you sleep for an hour and a half, you suddenly go into that deep sleep, which people love because it's the recovery phase. But it means that you're super tired the first hours, uh, after doing your power nap, which is not going to really help your productivity.
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Uh, but it's true that it's, it's not, it's not that easy. Uh, but there's a lot of people that actually start doing it, which, which is, it's very strange in a company that people do a power nap. But on the other hand, uh, for example, our company, we do it quite a lot. Uh, it sounds a bit funny that someone is suddenly sleeping for 20 minutes. Uh, well, if it helps the productivity, why not? I'm not sure. How does it actually work? How is work? Very simple. Yeah. Cause I, I don't have a deer, but I, I would just wear a sleep mask. I, I put some, uh, on Spotify, some mineral beads just to get a little bit in the flow, put like a timer, put this one on and just listen to it.
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And even on my chair and just take your rest for 20, 20, 30 minutes, which it might seem a bit odd when, when you're working in an environment with more people. But for us, if we are a little bit like a health company. It's not that weird. I can imagine in other companies is people will be sleeping around one, two o'clock in the afternoon. It would be a bit strange, but it makes sense. Never tried it. But it's very curious. I've never tried a power nap. I think I've only fallen asleep, but I've never tried to consciously do a power nap because I also wouldn't know how it works in the sense that if I would try to spend 20 minutes to do a power nap, then I would do it.
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I would think spent 20 minutes thinking about, okay, how can I get into a power nap stage? I think that it's, it's, it's, you know, like my, my brain would still be active for sure. For sure. You're not going to go into that deep stage, which Marie actually explained, which she probably goes through, what is, which is almost impossible, but it's, it's just, it's putting yourself in a state of, I'm trying to get really like a full rest for 20 minutes. And as I said, like, even, uh, you can do it in your bed when you're not at home. Even do it from your desk and on a chair, it's even perfect. Just put your chair a little bit backwards, your legs. Then you put like sleep mask on, which is probably the most easy thing to do.
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Put on some Spotify, like mineral beats and you get into like the sleeping stages and then you're fine. Shouldn't be that hard. Okay. Did it ever happen that somebody slept more than like 20, 30 minutes in the company? You know, that, uh, like somebody. Like me, who would just like, like, they're too afraid. And also like just a small tip is when you, when you put an alarm, I always put it on 30 minutes max, because otherwise it might actually happen that you actually go into that in that flow of sleeping more than, uh, than 30 minutes. So it's also one of the things that happened.
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So, and now, uh, tell us more about, uh, this, uh, your book, what is it about and, um, what do you, uh, what, uh, yeah, what is it about how it can help the people? Yeah. So. Maybe the, the, the purpose of our, our startup, I should not actually call it a startup anymore because we've worked with a lot more people is, um, to make an energetic lifestyle accessible. And how do we do that is we've built a health platform and also we didn't apply. Now that we've built that health platform to. That's HCI use the icon on the screen if you don't know because it data, the data, um, will be enjoyed by anyone that has anyone gonna have an excess of 3M data right? Steve the showed us this, Elana. Yeah.
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So we have, you know, all kinds of apps, yeah. physiotherapies that are going to give you as an individual more advice around which actions around lifestyle you could be doing one of the i think pretty cool things that that we're trying to implement is people often talk about well-being but we like to talk about well-being and it's what it means well-being for us no one it's our ip so no one can actually use it like it's the willingness of the individual to take actions around lifestyle so what i mean by that is as i have a background in sports i know that not everyone wants to become a top supporter we want people to take control of their health but we know that a lot of people like myself today i'm a dad i have a kid i don't want to change everything in my life but we're trying to look for the most impactful actions around lifestyle but also
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what you would like to integrate for example if i go a bit deeper we work we work around three energy sources and it's nutrition it's exercise and it's rest it's pretty straightforward but what we're trying to do is if you marie are not interested in taking risks or changing your exercise we're not going to focus on that one so we really want to focus on what the individual wants and it's different for everyone so for us we don't want to preach your lifestyle bible and that everything is important i know it is but we want to make it accessible simplicity that people like us and we call it in dutch that they are able to proceed those actions because taking actions and changing it's not that easy i don't know if you if you recognize that
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i just have a question you said that it's about nutrition exercise and the third one was uh what exactly wrist yeah what is it wrist it means it rest means what you do during the day and also what you do during the night so it's for us it means how you Charge your battery, so see it a little bit like your energy battery. It means with nutrition, you can charge your battery with exercise, you can charge your battery but also with wrist movements. Compare it a little bit the same as what I can do with my phone when it's empty, I can take some risks and it can be with exercises, meditation. But it also means doing a power nap or taking some sleep, doing social media detox all those things can help charging your battery and of course maybe what you said in the beginning of the of the podcast can improve also your productivity so it's something like readiness because I'm using uh Aura Ring.
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Uh, so like you have like a ring and it's like tracking your like heart rate, etc and they have like a board readiness where they are combining the exercise with activity and the sleep, and which is like telling you how much ready you are. Let's say compare it a little bit in the same for us. For us, it just means that because I'm 'I' don't use the Aura Ring today because it would be very depressing for me at this stage and it would not motivate the Aura Ring can be one of the tools that we integrate also in our platform, uh, and it can give us insights. But I believe that from an innovation point of view, that There's so many other tests that can also help you, so it's not about one test that is the golden standard.
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It's not a blood test, it's not a microbiome test, it's not the aura ring, but we compare various testing together and see, experiment with you like you do okay? What can change because what works for you doesn't necessarily work for Cedric people like, especially health should be personalized based on what you want and also based on what works for you. Yeah this is something I don't really like about aura in this stage is that for example if I want to have uh like sugar levels like for example like glucose monitoring Which is another device, which is like the constant glucose monitoring that you are, for example, putting on your arm or in your belly just to see like how your body is reacting to the sugar in general, so it's not compatible with Aura and you need to have another software, etc.
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So this is something that um I would really welcome if there would be like centralized space where I can like get all of these tests and I can really like integrate even Aura in it, in the terms of the heart rate and others. So this is uh what Yoboo is doing then it's what we're trying to do, it's for sure and I think that's important because it's Very frustrating that you have data from one point, you have another software, so for us it's really trying to integrate as much as data points which people want to do because I know that not everyone wants to have a glucose monitor but there's some that like to experiment with it, so for us it's also about getting the data together and then trying to see which based on AI, which recommendations we could give, how could you follow up what works well, what works not, so for sure it's in our roadmap and it's a really important thing to do.
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Thank you, I'm a bit confused about the Légala and Elliot, maybe one second, period, and remove. Curious about the Yoboo journey, where did the idea actually originate from? Because indeed you're a former top supporter, you've done a physio I think, yeah, physio osteo territory, but the entire concept of well-being, where did it grow um so first I'm not the only founder of Yoboo, so um I've created Yoboo with three other people uh one of them was a pharmacist, so he's for me like the real founder of Yoboo and what happens is if you look to a pharmacy um for us it's what people recognize if they don't feel well if they're sick they have a prescription they're gonna take some pills but it's like an open door that entry and people Are not feeling well, but so I can give you a supplement.
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But there are a lot of people who are not feeling well and they're not feeling well more than you can do around lifestyle. So um it was actually he Luke that started to really believe in new services in a pharmacy and he started to play with prevention services, but also with various testings and tools in a pharmacy. And as I had a sports physiotherapist and I was working with top supporters with a lot of people that already track for us, we started to brainstorm how what could work in one pharmacy maybe could work in other pharmacy and that's where these ideas started so that That that other founder, it's family for mine, so he's uh, he's an uncle, so that's why we're very related.
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And then the well-being philosophy um, it's more the fact that we were very frustrated with the model and the model talks a lot about um, that you have to do this and you have to do that. And I, and I explained a little bit like the white coat advice, and it's the doctor that says that Marie has to change the or has to change that. And a lot of people in this society they don't like it anymore, they want to take control of their own health, but on the other hand it's not that they want to change everything. So for us it's it is important to create. A philosophy, not that we start um walking on the trends like intermittent fasting or low-carb high-fat or PE diet.
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There's so many good ideas around the world which can improve your productivity and it makes sense. But I would believe that if we make it accessible for everyone, that it should be way more health. Should be more from a from a positive side, from something you can experiment from something that you take it in your own hands. And for us, it's like the philosophy of well-being, which is a lot nicer than 'I'm gonna explain how Cédric should change everything in his life' and I might be right, but you might not want to do. The long-term, um, so for us, it's it's a very important one. Might not be sustainable for me; it's what might not be sustainable for me.
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Like I might do it for a couple of days, but then especially, and people are always motivated and they're motivated for a week, maybe even 30 days. And it's a little bit what you see um, and where I know a lot of around habits because even the testings in the monitoring they can give you insight. But it takes six days to change or to to implement habits, so it is very hard to um, to have sustainable uh changes in your life when talking about lifestyle. So for me, it's the biggest, hardest one how we Can make it way more, um, way more practical, way more pragmatical because that's one of the challenges that people are seeing nowadays, mm-hmm, and how do you track nutrition?
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Is it that uh the people need to insert all of the foods inside your application like for example I'm using for nutrition application where I can like scan the barcodes of the food, uh, how does it work in your application, no at this stage not yet um so what we do is more review feedback so on a weekly stage when you start taking actions that we give or ask feedback around the actions that you've chosen around your energy and if you're still motivated. Or not, so it's also first more a behavioral change app. But on the one hand, we will add the fact that for example, your glucose monitoring that you've talked about, that we can track way more; your aura, all those things will be fully integrated and that we will compare the actions if you're chosen with a coach that we can track it on the global algorithm.
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I have no questions about the innovations, uh so you said that um you are... I don't know if this question is like the best for you because I see you in the company. Being like the top sport person, knowing the physiology, etcetera, then you have the second person who is more in the pharmacy, and then the third person who is the third person. If what is the focus of the third person exactly is number of details next, uh, you cannot test us in the visitor's club to see are we the target tourists or that are we the target sports that we want to use to have an exchange amount but we need to look more like a strategy advisor so go look to do macro and my question is regarding the artificial intelligence.
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So, how do you actually incorporate AI in your application? Do you use uh GPT-3, ChatGPT as A model or have you developed your own customized model, or how uh how this work in your application? It's a very interesting question; it's a hard one. Yeah, this isn't sure if this is exactly for you, maybe I should call it. It's very interesting as we're proceeding on, during in that direction there's maybe two ways um so first uh we've created our own algorithm and based on on the questionnaires and we're creating a sort of like a recommendation engine that's going to give you advice around which tests you can do, which actions are relevant like
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a self-learning uh recommendation engine in second stage what you are saying is what we would like to create and what we're we're in the process of creating it it's a little bit your well-being buddy is the one in your application that's gonna help you out with those obstacles um which you're gonna perceive along those lifestyle changes so it means that we'll train it how to uh develop and be in interaction with you marie and trying to give you personalized advice around why you would it would not be that easy to change your actions what you need you need more support you need more motivation uh you need more uh recipes whatever so we're focused like we're building now a little bit like the whole framework concept uh which we're gonna test in a pilot in the next month
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but it's a big one on ai i also had another seminar yesterday about ai that's also why i loved because ai is a very big word and they were saying that it's you have so many different insights of ai and how can you use it and it's not always that clear for people is it just chat gpt is it recommendation engine but for us in first stage it's recommendation engine and based on then it will be really like a sort of like a buddy via probably chat gpt that starts that we start to train about to help you not sure how you So, it's like for example these, like
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yeah, like AI, I know that they are like AI psychologists which are helping with mental health, like that, for example if you are feeling like not really well, if you need to speak with your friend or relative and they are not really available, there is like AI psychologists who can be like available for you, so I can imagine this also for your application that some people can just ask what's going on compared really in the same way. I think for psychology it's it's easy because it's it's very straightforward, you have a mental problem and for us it's more like your AI lifestyle coach uh. Which we, which we want to train from certain principles like our philosophy, how we look at making changes, um, and so yeah, exactly that way you can help.
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Nice and have you been thinking about using uh your book for uh like governments and like going more in the system in Belgium for example, how do you mean reimbursements or in um or just in society? Yeah, like I think that the reimbursements of work probably for your book because I know that for example partner mutuality, I can reimburse like Strava and stuff. So probably somehow like collaborate with um the health institutions or with um the government or even like apply. to some innovative solutions in health etc so that there is more spread around this good question yes we are speaking with a lot of parties uh from mutualities also from insurance companies uh also in hospitals
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um not sure actually i did not say it in the beginning of the podcast um but we also you boo had a um or cholera troop which is quite a like a famous brand uh in uh in belgium they participated one year ago in your boo um so it also means that for example on on the on the government level we really needed some big players to push a bit more towards health society prevention and health where it's going so also we work Together with Colorado Group Um, we're having a big impact on the societal level, um, with your boo, so there we're working. Also, but for example, for example, what we're trying, also to do with your boo, not sure if you know Colorad Group well or not, but there's, for example, a lot of companies, also in Colorado Group, such as Food Bag, which is biological food at home delivered, so for us, it would be really cool to have testing data dashboarding an application helps you.
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But if you don't like to cook, we make a link with Food Bag, that also food is delivered at home and it's just convenience, so it makes it a lot easier to start working on your health. So, we're building bridges between those companies on the future, also with the Colorado group, to make sure that we're not trying to do everything ourselves, but we link with other companies.
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Wow, that's impressive, that's quite a big fish that you pulled on your hookah from the very beginning and with food bag, it's an alternative to HelloFresh, no, yep, yep, yeah, okay, then I heard about it, oh, that's very cool. Um, and for us, it's one, it's one of the reasons that we because it was a quite early investment, we were still working with like limited people, only 24, so it's a it's a bigger company today, uh, and we've grown quite Quick now, um, but for us, it's trying to build that ecosystem because when you talk about health, it's not that easy to do it all by yourself. Um, and Food Bag is one company, um, but there are other ones within Colorado such as James, for example, it's a fitness company, uh, be Your Planet also these are really
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things uh which we can integrate around nutrition around exercise around risks and it's also one of the goals of the of the family of Colorado itself they really want to focus or put a priority on health and health towards their own company so it's almost 33, 000 people within the who are working for Colorado troops, so. Your boys also, um, services, corporate well-being, um, journeys. So it means that when you want to invest in your company to be more predictive, to be more energetic, we do like personalized well-being projects, depending on if you want to track for example Marie with an aura, or you want to have advice from coaches or more just from a questioner. We provide like all those services towards Colorad Troop, but since couple months also towards other companies.
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She left did Marie drop no,I think she pressed she probably pressed the wrong button well there she is again. Sorry for the interruption. I just had one more, one more question. and it was it was actually my internet connection that kicked me off and now i'm on my mobile data but my question was regarding the beginnings of your software and how did you get started with your software and how did you get started with your software so how did you meet with the people that are currently like collaborating with you and what uh how did you like started because being the business owner i know how difficult it is to actually come up with something meaningful that looks like a final product so how did you start it with this so so we started your booth with four people um and to be honest it was at a restaurant
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there was no business plan there was no big concept validated it was just it was a technical person me as a top supporter another founder as a pharmacy and then strategy just set together and we sort of had an idea we had it works in one pharmacy why not bring it towards the outside so i think the lesson that i've learned there is we just started and we started from building an mvp product and we started from building an mvp product and we started from building an mvp product uh we were a little bit lucky that we were all were still working so we could work on the on the pilot itself and just at some stage we launched the mvp product Uh, we onboarded new pharmacies.
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We did some companies and we've learned on the road... learned on the road in a startup. It means also it's a roller coaster so it's it sounds quite easy now but we've had to learn a lot. We've had to learn a lot. We've also, I think, how to say like... we also went against some walls so I'm not sure how to say that well in English, but it's it's with ups and downs. Um, but the best thing to do is you have the best business plans uh and you have the best people, the consulting people, that give you advice if you have an idea just ask some people for advice, trying to do like a MVP product and just start.
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And it's also where most of the of the founders of the startup said they learn the most bootstrapping and just go very quick trying to learn as as much as possible and also to be honest i've never expected to be here today uh if i had an idea two and a half years ago it went completely in the other way and even now we still have to pivot because things are not working so for us it's more about it's being very critical what you're doing trying to be as efficient as possible and pivot when things are not working and were you seeking also like investments at some point of the time or it's like self-funded
00:30:07
No, because we have a big party participation with one company so it means that we it will also be the only investor for the future so based on our business model we have a budget to start growing it was different in the beginning because we also did a pre-seed round in a subsidy file before but at this stage, we're for sure not cash flow from a cash flow perspective we're not doing well because we have to invest quite a lot in the platform, in the application we've talked also Marie about AI, All those things they're very nice but they're very costly and that's also why I'm an investor like Colored, and what is this company that you have, it's a Colored group in the beginning or there was a different company at the beginning, we've had some early smart investors
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so they were not yet in the company, so the way it works is we convert convertible loans, so these were a little bit the early believers, let's say friends and fools, and then some smart investors within the pharma market within the healthcare market people that were there from the beginning but once Colored group actually entered Yoboo, we also said goodbye to those early investors, so far it's only still the founders that are still there and also Colored group as a big investor and also will take a major role in the future for us super impressive what? what do you mean? super impressive I really like your story it's really interesting how you have made your journey and how have you made actually I will say that it was it's a very enjoyable journey but I would recommend it to barely anyone which is a bit strange
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because it's demanding it's probably the nicest job I've done in the last two and a half years meeting a lot of people but it's also been the most stressful period in my life it means you have to seek investors, you have to have a good product market fit there's a lot of uncertainties which I know that I think everyone can invest or invest and do a startup everyone can build a company but not everyone is able to to make is able to be confronted with also a lot of no's and not everything is always nice in a startup and at some stage now it's very nice and we're building an app and we're getting traction and we're growing again which is nice but there's also a lot of lonely moments when things are not going right and IT is not working
00:33:25
and what you wanted to do today is actually what you wanted is only ready in 12 months so it's also making sure that you have to be quite resilient and I think it's the hardest job for a founder it's not the fact that you have to be very smart it's the fact that you just Have to be capable to keep on going to keep on pushing because it's not always rainbow butterlies, didn't hear your background and your experience in top sports help you? I think from one point, the perseverance or the persistence to keep pushing-it's one of the things that I've learned: discipline and to never give up, and still believe in yourself, and to never give up believing in what you're doing.
00:34:17
I think the second thing that's helping me right now is as the team is growing, is to create a culture and a mindset within the team to understand how it works, and to understand that trying to get 24 people in the right direction-I feel that I've sort of I've been there also playing for the national team, and trying to create a story which is not always easy, but just getting all those people on the right position. Trying to give a lot of feedback, trying to make sure that they get better. These are actually things that help me quite a lot. I could imagine that you gotta keep pushing from that perspective. There's also a couple even ex-top supporters that also work for a company, and it's just very nice to work with them.
00:35:17
One of the things that I would say that it's nice to work with top supporters is because they're resilient in their head-it's not That they've; they know how to push, they know how to how to handle feedback, and I think Cedric, you understand that you've had good moments, Bad moments when you don't play well, people see it in your face and it's not that easy for many people for many young people to receive feedback because they're not used to it and it's very easy with top supporters that when you give them feedback, they know how to handle it; they don't see it as a personal aspect and they don't know how to push. Accepting feedback is a skill on its own, that's definitely for sure.
00:36:10
There are many coaches that give training around about that one receiving and giving feedback; it's a very interesting one. Nice and you have some like method how young people can actually get better with receiving the feedback. Is there something that you think that might help people to get understand and get better with the feedback? If not necessarily they want to embark on a journey of a top sportsman, yeah I would also not recommend that everyone. I think it's probably the first one or tip that I can give is just not to answer a lot of people when they receive feedback; they don't agree or they have an excuse or whatever and it's actually just to let it sink in and to try to reflect internally what is he or she.
00:37:13
Saying, 'What does it mean? How is it working? Is it coming? Is it relevant?' we always have the the eagerness to push back and to react on people. It's just to say, 'Okay, thank you for that advice and just start asking questions instead of replying. So the second tip is also for me: just asking questions. It's to be curious-where is it coming from? How do you mean? What could I have done better? For me, it's just important that you don't always go into your self-defensive mechanism like 'It's not my fault, it's someone else's fault.' No, just take it, own it, and try to understand what the individual is saying. And if trying to understand and not replying it's already the best advice I can give
00:38:03
that's a really good one I actually had a similar situation recently where I really like hold it but I don't know like when I look at like I think it also depends on with whom you are speaking and if you can take the constructive feedback from that exact person because sometimes we are also receiving feedback from really bad people in the aspect that there are there is a lot of jealousy there are like people who may not wish you the best in your endeavors etc so I think that it also very much depends on who is staying in front of you and if that feedback is very Much relevant because when you are a top sportsman and you receive a feedback from a trainer, then indeed you have to sink it in-you have to absorb it.
00:38:55
After that, come back, ask questions. But if you're receiving a feedback from somebody from the audition, somebody who watched you and never actually played hockey for example, and he's telling you, 'Yeah, you are lazy, you don't know how to play blah blah blah I think that there's also very much depends who is giving the feedback. I understand what you're saying, but even there, from my perspective, you can also still it's not about agreeing or disagreeing, I think it's something. Completely different, sometimes you can say, well, the feedback is shit. But even if the external people and you ask what do you mean? What could I have done better? How do you look at it? How do you make your criteria? Why do you think that I played well?
00:39:45
Even those questions, it can soften things out, and it's always on the individual itself, what you do with feedback. And of course, I've also received feedback, and afterwards, I said, well, that's pretty bullshit; it's not right. But it's not necessarily always finding a way to make sure that I win the conversation, and that's something that we're trying to do, and we're used to because we don't. Like, it's nice to receive feedback, and it hurts, but just if you see from a very curious way, why is this individual saying this? It might be frustrated; he might not be a happy person. And it's only placed on a Sunday morning to give feedback to someone else, a hockey player, because the whole week I cannot do anything at home, so even that one, if you see it from a different perspective, it gets a bit funny and interesting.
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My last question from myself is: What would you give as an advice to a person who is currently starting with their own business and they are currently really in the initial stage of for example writing down the creation stage? Of what the software should be, my advice would be that I think the advice is something that I've, I haven't done in the beginning. Is finding one or two mentors that you take along that journey and these are not mentors necessarily that you need to pay for. I think there's a lot of people that actually want to help and just people someone that you can trust and someone you can discuss openly and just work together, or once in a while ask feedback to to people to someone that has done it before, someone not from a consultancy perspective because they don't understand but someone that has been there from a startup to a scale.
00:41:54
Up and just asking, okay? Is it all right that maybe once a month I can ask you a couple of questions or give you some ideas? You'd be surprised how much people would like to help. It's not that I will always have the time to do those things, but I really like to guide young people because it's important to me that they get pushed, and it's also important that they learn quicker in which directions they need to go. And I do understand why... Do you have some recommendations? Yeah, go ahead! Do you have some recommendations where people can find a mentor? I think one of the things that Belgium does quite well, and actually, they've created the last years quite a lot of incubators and I think incubators, it's one of the most accessible places to present your idea and from idea go towards a product market fit so that's one of the things where you can see a lot of where you can see a lot of business angels or mentors older ones.
00:43:07
Good question, it's not that easy when you're in the business, especially when you're not where you're not in the startup environments and you're from an outer perspective. You have to try to get in as much as possible and just talk to people. One thing that I've learned also is that when you're young and even or when you're young, when you have an idea and you think I should not share it with everyone else because the idea is so good it's genius and just share it with everyone else just one thing that I've learned is to go from an idea stage towards a product market fit to finding funding to finding like a really good business case it takes a lot of effort so also as a young idea when you have an idea
00:44:00
don't be too much afraid to share it a lot of the people they don't have the time they don't have the resources to pick your idea because an idea is an idea and I have 20 good ideas each day for me it's more about getting something done and it's the hardest One idea comes when you walk around in the supermarket and you have 20 good ideas, but just making sure what needs to be done to get a good product market fit. So, talking about getting things done, we're almost running into the end of the year and starting 2025. What's still in store for you? Towards the end of the year or what can we expect at the beginning of next year from you and Yoboo? Good question, I think for sure. At this stage, we have not launched our app officially yet, so by the end of this year, we'll launch our app B2C, and I think also for next year, we go way more towards our well-being buddy, and we're going to be our AI-driven model, our recommendation engine. So it's there where we want to really connect even more testing on our platform to make sure Marie that your glucose monitoring in your aura is going to be on the Yobu platform, and it's going to be shared
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nicely. It's good news that Yoboo is going this direction, so thank you so much Oli for your time today, and thank you for joining us on this podcast about well-being innovatology, and definitely our audience can take a look at your application, Dovlandit, I guess that it's available on the iPhone and the Androids both in the App Store and Google Play, and they can take a look inside the application. And start to nourish their well-being, because this is very important for the health of the people for the future and for the future of yourself. So, thank you so much Oli, and see you probably in another episode. Thank you very much, cheers.
